whats  up im new to this forum. i just wanted to know if there were any mopar people here. 

I drive a pease of $h!t 1990 Dodge daytona ES. it my current learning car and project its ugly as can be but for some reason i dont wanna get rid of it. 

Welcome. there are a few mopar guys, pressurecooker being our senior Diplomat.
Daytonas can be sweet, i looked into buying a few before i got the dsm and proceeded to kill my back account for several years.



(if i made that pun up there for nothing, so help me....)

yeah we usually try to ban those fuckers but their are still a few of them around.

welcome aboard.

for info on that motor you might wanna turn to dsm/mitsu guys. welcome

welcome

so ya drive a mopar, huh? i take it you like replacing transmissions every week and a half and having stock in some big name oil company?

Wait a sec....You drive a Ford and you are calling out other peoples trannies lol...

DSM guys tend to know fuck all about the 8V 2.2.

But then again I don't know the ins and outs of the 4G63, so it's a two-way street.

So, does that '90 got boost?

And welcome!



I don't recall the AOD being the pillar of Transmission reliability, either.

FWD Mopar Auto Transmission guide for newbz.

3 speed auto = GTG
4 Speed auto = Run away!

If he's packing a 3.0 powered Daytona, the best bet would be either to find the three speed, or a 5-speed stick to swap into it.

Welcome young greasehopper.

Sounds like you've been bit.

That's ok, 'cause it's a treatable disease that managed correctly, can be lived with happily and for a long time.

Welcome, pics?

actually, my ford's powered by yamaha...so there!

and your weak as shit transmission is still ford.

This daytona is already packing the 3.0 5speed large spline A543 transmission. And as long as he is not a dumb ass, the transmission will out last the body and the oil burning Mitsubishi engine.

Welcome

jason jason jason....don't you know that the SHO was Ford's own Frankenstein? Engine by Yamaha, Transmission by Mazda before Ford owned them?

At least the kid is getting off on the right foot.

Mopar or no car.

J4278h is the king of junkyard performance parts swap knowledge here. This is who I'd ask for info on any of the older fwd Mopar stuff. I only know a little as I had an 83 charger for a short time but pretty much kept to the old v-8 rwd stuff when all the 2.2's were the badass Mopars. What I do know about these cars is they are joyfully simple and easy to swap parts and work on compared to most any newer stuff. A ton of "K" variant platform stuff is available still and they are economical to hot rod and make handle well. Really a great place to start for a newb with little cash.

really they made the automatic in the third gen?

Not something I would brag about either. That 3.4 Yamaha has lots of power but is as unreliable as engines get, unless you drive a Kia or a Mazda Rotary, and rare (expensive) to boot.

My step-dad still can't figure out whats wrong with his....

i thought it was only the 2nd gen shows that were unreliable. somethin about a pin in the cams?

Swing and a miss!

SuperWedgies car is packing either a 3.0 or 3.2, as it's a first gen SHO. Both of those are great engines, though the 3.2 was crippled by Ford by only including a slush box with it from the factory.

I think SuperWedgie replaced his 3.0 with a 3.2, but I'm not 100% sure.

The 3.4 V8's could have been a bad momma jamma if Ford decided to support it better, and didn't stick a slush box next to it.

Allow me to clear the air about some stuff....



guess again. The 3.4's got a pretty solid maintenance history. For example, i've had my 98 since fall of 2005. Since then, I've replaced a single ignition coil, an alternator, a fuel pump, struts and springs. yeah, that's unreliable. Oh yeah, and that's over about 80,000 miles.




Nope. The cam issue was with the V8. basically, ford engineers smoked a bit too much pot on the day they designed the timing gear between the camshafts on the V8. Yamaha designed the heads, ford modified them slightly and built em, screwing the V8 guys outta a really sexy intake manifold in the process. Anywho, basically the timing gear, rather than being attached to the cam in some way, was simply pressed on. The resulting give in the gears created quite a mess between the valves and the pistons. A quick and easy fix is to yank the valve covers and either drill a hole through the cam and gear and squeeze a pin in there, or just weld the damn sprockets to the cams. Personally, mine's been welded.




Correct. A common swap amongst the gen I/II (89-95) SHO owners is to bolt the 3.2 block to the 3.0 heads (or just intake cams). The purpose is obviously more displacement, and the intake cams on the 3.2 when coupled to the autotragic were .315 lift vs .330, and they lost some duration as well. The swap is worth about 20lb-ft of torque and in the neighborhood of 25-35hp, depending on the health of the 3.2.

Allow me to clear the air about some stuff....



guess again. The 3.4's got a pretty solid maintenance history. For example, i've had my 98 since fall of 2005. Since then, I've replaced a single ignition coil, an alternator, a fuel pump, struts and springs. yeah, that's unreliable. Oh yeah, and that's over about 80,000 miles.




Nope. The cam issue was with the V8. basically, ford engineers smoked a bit too much pot on the day they designed the timing gear between the camshafts on the V8. Yamaha designed the heads, ford modified them slightly and built em, screwing the V8 guys outta a really sexy intake manifold in the process. Anywho, basically the timing gear, rather than being attached to the cam in some way, was simply pressed on. The resulting give in the gears created quite a mess between the valves and the pistons. A quick and easy fix is to yank the valve covers and either drill a hole through the cam and gear and squeeze a pin in there, or just weld the damn sprockets to the cams. Personally, mine's been welded.




Correct. A common swap amongst the gen I/II (89-95) SHO owners is to bolt the 3.2 block to the 3.0 heads (or just intake cams). The purpose is obviously more displacement, and the intake cams on the 3.2 when coupled to the autotragic were .315 lift vs .330, and they lost some duration as well. The swap is worth about 20lb-ft of torque and in the neighborhood of 25-35hp, depending on the health of the 3.2.



What's it doing? I'm pretty sure I could find out what's wrong with it in a very short amount of time.

welcome

No its actualy a mitsubishi drivetrain...hehe only the body is mopar. it has the 6g72 engine and a 5speed trans.

welcome

i always LOL @ the intake and exhaust runners on the same side of the head on 2.2/2.5 mopars. what a goofy design...

Well to be more specific its 1990 Dodge Daytona with the 3.0 12v SOHC 6g72 and like jason said it has the 5speed (that he hooked me up with) with 3.77 Gears. its completely stock. i just got doing an engine swap on the 3rd of july and whent crussing on the 4th drove for about 400 miles and no smoke from the engine and its super smooth no engine noice at all and when i get on the the gas it gets up and goes, not too bad for $200 and 197,584 miles on the motor. Im currently doing a rebuild on the old engine since i spun a bearing and the crank shaft got distroyed. All i have left to buy is a crank shaft but i was thinking that for $350 that im gonna be paying for the crank i can just buy another used motor for less and use the crack from that and have a shit load of parts left for my other two motors.

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This is where my engines is at. And this is my plan for latter on. mybe next spring. The turboed engine is from a TD guy at turbododge.com he ran 13's 1/4 mile with 5-psi and and low 12s with 10psi. i thing his engine right now makes 516 whp with 16psi. i only plan on runing 5 to 10 pounds with stock internals.
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Did you buy that car from a guy named mike with big glasses?

HEHE...NO i traded this car for a RICED OUT pontiac sunfire to an old guy that was selling the car. he was selling it cause his grandson didnt know how to drive a manual and when the kid saw my car he liked it and it was a 3speed auto so we traded. I dont know if you remember the sunfire it had racing stripes that i painted with .98cent walmart spry paint and it had a fart can. what ever happened to your cougar?

was it red?

yah...hehe those were my ricer days. thankfuly my friends showed me RICER youtube videos and made me see how fucking stupid i looked and was.

youre the guy with the blue vw that goes to dash works right.?

and you're the kid that was running an OPEN INTAKE MANIFOLD.

No pipe, airbox, or filter. nothing.

I still have the cougar, needs a trans Im pretty sure. I am almost positive thats my buddys old car. His was the only daytona I knew of that had the red in such a way on the rims. Just the inside of it painted red.
Did it look similiar to this riced out sunbird?
BTW how do you know me?

Dude its me Jose Kuri we whent to vicksburg together for a wile.  

And no. my riced out pontiac looked like this.

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Yup i wanted the car to die so my parents would help me buy another one thats why i would beat the crap out of it drope gears drive it in second and let it redline for miles drive it with out an intake. etc but it wouldnt die. so i desided to rice it out and proctice welding and painting and other things like that on it. i dint doit cause i thought a 3speed sunfire was a fast car but for practice.


Very cool ride you got by the way..where im from in mexico city there are SHIT LOADS of those cars cause they are sooo cheap, i wish i could go there and buy one then bring it here.

sorry my pictures didnt upload properly i couldnt see them on my laptop so i hope it works now. this is the pease of shit daytona its a 1990 Dodge Daytona ES. 12v SOHC 6g72 with a 3.77GR 5speed trans. Just a stock car that i bought as a project and has given me lots of problems, but after a lot of work its now done and its back on the road. Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachment


This is what i want to get done before winter starts, if not then hopefuly i can get i done during the winter i just need to find a kkk k27 trubo for cheap.
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The KKK turbo doesnt like red cars. It will kill your shit. True story. Lol I didnt know it was you jose. That daytona is so my buddy mikes old car, I would bet alot of money on that.

i bet you my car that its not your old friends car. hehe where are you staying at ill go show it to you.

Thats the only daytona in the area with paint on the rims like that. I remember him doing it. I live out in galesburg.

"you said it was your practice car".....

I asked if you meant for driving and you said,"no, for painting.", "I can sand and paint it when ever i want".

I remember looking in that car, and seeing that it was an automatic.......so i don't understand how you could "drop gears, and redline it for miles".... please explain.

move shift lever?

I dont think in an old sunfire that it would have that.

Newsflash: that paint is factory...

Carry on with misinformed thread.



I remember the night that he bragged about beating that 4 banger tempo with the strobe lights up front.

I also recall and argument that we had about his "Uncle's factory V6 Neon" which do not, nor did ever exist. I think Pcook was there for that.



Hey now, I run with no air filter, but I do it only because I'm too lazy to relocate my battery, and the current skittle engine owes me nothing but a ride to work. When it goes, I'll probably address the situation.

I don't do it for "more power yo!11!" like on that Pontiac failfire.

I dont see many daytonas and it seems like the ones I have seen lacked that paint. I did not know it was stock. I remember my buddy painting them. I guess he was just redoing it. My bad. Wasnt all that good of friends with him.

Dont remember anyone sayin anything about a v6 Neon at the moment......

To the best of my knowledge, none have ever been made. May go check the allpar website on that though......

just my 2 cents, but a turbo 2.2, 2.4 or 2.5 (4 cyl) would be the better way to go than the 3.0 v-6 when turboing.

Much easier.

Yah i practiced painting on that car so what? And yes like i said in a previous post that it was a 3speed auto and to drope gears just move the lever. 


And i was 17 at the time i was just experimenting with a car dude, not every body, but some people go through that stage when you wanna make what you have different and at the time i didnt have any other cars to work with. 

I remember the night that he bragged about beating that 4 banger tempo with the strobe lights up front.

I also recall and argument that we had about his "Uncle's factory V6 Neon" which do not, nor did ever exist. I think Pcook was there for that.

[/quote] HAHAHA dude i wasnt braging about beating the tempo. That was my first "race" if you wanna call it a race and i was just a little excited every body goes through that im sure if you've raced and won you got excited. All you guys talk shit as if i was the only one that did shit like that. I dont wanna make enemies of have people dislike me just for stupid imature ricer things i did. I,ve grown out of that ricer stage.  


And from what i recal from when i lived im mexico there were v6 neos i apologise if im wrong, but all you guys know that there's cars here in the u.s that are a little different in other countries.

So if all you guys are done giving me shit, i would like to start over, hopefuly im not much of a ricer anymore. So if you guys happen to see me at Dash Works and im being a ricer insted of talking shit, slap me across the face and tell im being an idiot. As for my car i hope its not considered a ricer. the only things that ive done to the car is an engine and trans replacement. it has the interior of the car removed because it sat for 7 months in the barn and mice got in and deside urinate all over the carpet and make their homes inside all the planstic panels so if i make it to one of the Dash Works gatherings dont think that im trying to be fast by removing 50lbs of carpet and plastic.

I hope you guys help me in the right direction when it comes to cars and not just look at me act like an idiot.

That said hope to see you guys sometime this comming weekends

Tony Kuri

welcome and gl with ur build

I think if I had a 3.0 v-6, and I wanted to go fast and I didnt really care about the engine (after all, it is a pretty worthless lump as is) I would go with a nitrous setup rather than a turbo to get my speed fix.

Way quicker, way cheaper, and way easier. Also pretty fast for a while.

Yah but new nitrous kits are so expensive. The only reason i want to turbo the car is so i can learn to do it on a car that doesnt have all the aftermarket parts like other popular cars do. and if i get it done succesfuly then i will then move on to a better car with more potensial..What im basi cly trying to do is learn to works on cars on my own since i dont have the money to go to a school and i dont know many people that work on cars in general.

but i gues if i find a cheap used nitrous kit i would prolly buy it. if i blow the motor i wont have a problem finding another since there are thousands of them at the junk yard for $150-$250 and they are super easy to swap.

Nitrous expensive? Are you kidding? ELL OHH ELL! If thats what you think, you obviously dont have the dong for a turbo.

Did you not understand the part where I said "way cheaper"?

A whole nitrous setup costs less than a turbo. JUST THE TURBO, much less the all the other stuff like computers, intercoolers, BOVs, WGA's, boost controls, injectors, fuel system upgrades, air plumbing, oil plumbing etc etc etc.

Thanks for providing me with my mid day laugh!