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Simans82
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eflint49
am i the only one that hates that look? I think cutting into your wheel wells and making your car look like that is just as extreme and pointless as the idiots with 20 foot wings and cardboard body kits.

Simans82
QUOTE (eflint49 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:56 PM) *
am i the only one that hates that look? I think cutting into your wheel wells and making your car look like that is just as extreme and pointless as the idiots with 20 foot wings and cardboard body kits.


Assuming you're looking at the same pics I am, the amount of custom work that goes into a SEMA build like this Camaro is FAR outside the realm of bolt on body kits and wings. You might want to look at the pics more closely to see that it's not just cutting the wheel wells. I'll make sure to post finished pics whenever they're available.
jErk
Yeah those first two pics are mind blowing.
eflint49
I don't doubt that the person who did that work has some amazing skills, but I still think it looks ugly and unnatural to tuck the wheels that far.
Travis
What does doing this to a car do to its safety rating? Is it like an automatic nullification of the rate or could it make it stronger in some ways? Serious question in case anyone has any doubt....
Simans82
QUOTE (Travis @ Nov 3 2009, 03:42 PM) *
What does doing this to a car do to its safety rating? Is it like an automatic nullification of the rate or could it make it stronger in some ways? Serious question in case anyone has any doubt....


That's a good question. The only comment that even comes to mind is that the engineers who design these cars for real world situations (accidents from nearly any angle) are the only ones that can really guarantee any bit of safety in these cars due to their testing. On the other hand, those who do full chassis builds do so much OVER building that I think they feel as though the cars are somewhat indestructible (which may be the case, I have no clue to be honest). I'd like to see a crash test rating done on a full aftermarket chassis vs a factory one. I can't imagine separating the car into pieces and then welding it back together in such a wildly different manner than what came from the factory would be safer though, but that's coming from someone who has no background in engineering or vehicle safety. laugh.gif

QUOTE (eflint49 @ Nov 3 2009, 02:47 PM) *
I don't doubt that the person who did that work has some amazing skills, but I still think it looks ugly and unnatural to tuck the wheels that far.


Oh I gotcha. I read your comment wrong. I see where you're coming from now. I realize that the look isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the work itself was the only thing I was referencing. I always like seeing these types of builds on newer cars. If for no other reason than to see something a little bit different than other modern car builds.
Casey
At the risk of sounding like a mindless f-body fanboy (which I'm not)...this thing looks SICK. Never would have thought I'd be diggin this look on a '10 Camaro.
SpoolinSol
QUOTE (Travis @ Nov 3 2009, 03:42 PM) *
What does doing this to a car do to its safety rating? Is it like an automatic nullification of the rate or could it make it stronger in some ways? Serious question in case anyone has any doubt....

looks like it has a tubed front end now; which pretty much deletes front crumple zones.... essentially its a roll cage with no 'roll over' protection...
office888
QUOTE (SpoolinSol @ Nov 3 2009, 07:04 PM) *
looks like it has a tubed front end now; which pretty much deletes front crumple zones.... essentially its a roll cage with no 'roll over' protection...


Pfft, you don't need crumple zones!

Look at how manly this 59' Belair is when it hits an 09' Malibu.



It didn't need nooo stinkin' crumple zones!

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-Richard-
hopelax22
is that the molding on the side windows that doesnt line up, or is that for some reason tape for masking? i'd be walking around with a boner all day after seeing it, if it werent for that...
HeelToeSTI
QUOTE (office888 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:48 AM) *
Pfft, you don't need crumple zones!

Look at how manly this 59' Belair is when it hits an 09' Malibu.



It didn't need nooo stinkin' crumple zones!

laugh.gif

-Richard-





You did notice the difference in the movement of the dummies, right? Like the whole head slamming into the roof of the Belair and the passenger area being compromised.

QUOTE (eflint49 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:56 PM) *
am i the only one that hates that look? I think cutting into your wheel wells and making your car look like that is just as extreme and pointless as the idiots with 20 foot wings and cardboard body kits.



You are not.
office888
QUOTE (HeelToeSTI @ Nov 5 2009, 11:01 AM) *
You did notice the difference in the movement of the dummies, right? Like the whole head slamming into the roof of the Belair and the passenger area being compromised.


/sarcasm

Driver of the Belair probably would have suffered a severe concussion, and possibly would die of head trauma.

-Richard-
SuperSick
Steering column to the neck FTL.
Simans82
Aaron
QUOTE (hopelax22 @ Nov 5 2009, 10:19 AM) *
is that the molding on the side windows that doesnt line up, or is that for some reason tape for masking? i'd be walking around with a boner all day after seeing it, if it werent for that...


I noticed this too and i feel the same about that pic, but the newest one its not there so it probably was just tape. I actually like the look, and I really like the new camaros.



.. as far as the safety thing, Id have to think that with the number of separate sections needed to put that back together, which had to be welded, that the safety on the rear end would be somewhat compromised as well as the front. You can simulate what a stamped section of metal will do when contacted, but i would imagine it would be quite hard to predict what several attached sections would do.
revs2-9
Who cares if its safe or not? The car looks bad ass. And thats what they built it for not to pass a crash test.
evolution8
It may not look cool to some, but thats true customizing. Cutting out a huge section of frame and fabricating in a piece that looks cooler than the original and is far better for strength is hard work and this is done very well! Very clean and tastefully done! A lot like Simans cars.
Pressurecooker
Awesome looking Camaro. Not my thing, but awesome anyway. I really like the look of the new Camaro lowered or not.

IMO that crash Vid could almost be an advertisement for MOPAR greatness as it really illustrates the crashworthiness of a unibody vs a body on frame. Chrysler started building only unibodies way back in the early 60's, way before Ford and GM and it should be noted that the mid 60's Chrysler Imperials stand out as one of the only cars to be BANNED from some demolition derbys because of their lethality to drivers of other cars. To that, I must add that current rules of many derbies allow so many unseen modifications and beefing to all cars now and some derby cars are so heavily modded it is almost like watching Nascar. That is to say, they are far far from stock. If the cars are truly stock then the Imperials are killers. I am glad they are banned because I hate seeing them get wrecked.

Anyway, nice work done to that Camaro.
Aaron
QUOTE (Pressurecooker @ Nov 8 2009, 05:02 PM) *
Awesome looking Camaro. Not my thing, but awesome anyway. I really like the look of the new Camaro lowered or not.

IMO that crash Vid could almost be an advertisement for MOPAR greatness as it really illustrates the crashworthiness of a unibody vs a body on frame. Chrysler started building only unibodies way back in the early 60's, way before Ford and GM and it should be noted that the mid 60's Chrysler Imperials stand out as one of the only cars to be BANNED from some demolition derbys because of their lethality to drivers of other cars. To that, I must add that current rules of many derbies allow so many unseen modifications and beefing to all cars now and some derby cars are so heavily modded it is almost like watching Nascar. That is to say, they are far far from stock. If the cars are truly stock then the Imperials are killers. I am glad they are banned because I hate seeing them get wrecked.

Anyway, nice work done to that Camaro.


I watched an Imperial completely cave in the side of a Corsica in a derby (why the corsica was in it, i dont know..) but they had to stop the derby and cut the guy out of the Corsica.
Demz
awesome work done, too bad i hate the slammed look with a passion.
Simans82
QUOTE (Demz @ Nov 9 2009, 12:38 AM) *
awesome work done, too bad i hate the slammed look with a passion.


No doubt, join the club... wait... dry.gif laugh.gif
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